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http://gplracer.eu/replays/f2/F2_Enna_GPLRACER6.2015.05.17.7z

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Track: Enna             Sun May 17 20:19:00 2015

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1   6 Uli HofmannF2                    Brabham  GER 1m12.718s             21
 2  10 Paul SkingleyF2                  Ferrari  GBR 1m12.981s   00.263s   16
 3  18 anders ostlundf2                 Brabham  SWE 1m13.721s   01.003s   20
 4  17 Konni Koch-F2                    Brabham  AUT 1m13.970s   01.252s    8
 5  20 Bart Vaes67F2                    McLaren  BEL 1m13.971s   01.253s   18
 6  19 Fabian Casula                    McLaren  SUI 1m14.057s   01.339s   16
 7  16 Yannick Verheijen                Ferrari  HOL 1m14.196s   01.478s   11
 8  14 Pedro Berg_vd                    Honda    HOL 1m14.679s   01.961s   13
 9   4 Bastian Grupp                    Ferrari  GER   No time   No time    0
10  35 GPLRACER6                        BRM      GER   No time   No time    0

RACE RESULTS (After 36 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff
 1  10 Paul SkingleyF2                 Ferrari  GBR   36  44m25.850s            
 2  17 Konni Koch-F2                   Brabham  AUT   36  44m37.238s    11.388s 
 3  14 Pedro Berg_vd                   Honda    HOL   36  45m01.130s    35.280s 
 4  19 Fabian Casula                   McLaren  SUI   35  44m42.800s   1 lap(s) 
 5  16 Yannick Verheijen               Ferrari  HOL   28  34m58.556s   8 lap(s) 
 6   6 Uli HofmannF2                   Brabham  GER   15  18m34.790s  21 lap(s) 
 7   4 Bastian Grupp                   Ferrari  GER    3   4m16.595s  33 lap(s) 
 8  18 anders ostlundf2                Brabham  SWE    1   1m21.236s  35 lap(s) 
 9  20 Bart Vaes67F2                   McLaren  BEL    1   1m23.120s  35 lap(s) 
10  35 GPLRACER6                       BRM      GER    0 DidNotStart  36 lap(s) 


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  Paul SkingleyF2                   1m12.959s  14
 2  Fabian Casula                     1m13.061s   8
 3  Konni Koch-F2                     1m13.155s  13
 4  Uli HofmannF2                     1m13.321s   7
 5  Pedro Berg_vd                     1m13.610s  24
 6  Yannick Verheijen                 1m13.640s  27
 7  Bastian Grupp                     1m19.330s   1
 8  anders ostlundf2                  1m20.693s   1
 9  Bart Vaes67F2                     1m21.435s   1
10  GPLRACER6                           No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
Uli HofmannF2                    1-2
Paul SkingleyF2                  3-6
Uli HofmannF2                    7
Paul SkingleyF2                  8
Uli HofmannF2                    9-10
Konni Koch-F2                    11
Uli HofmannF2                    12-14
Paul SkingleyF2                  15-36

Number of lead changes: 7
Number of leaders: 3


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
Paul SkingleyF2                  27
Uli HofmannF2                    8
Konni Koch-F2                    1


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
Pedro Berg_vd                        8      3       5  
Yannick Verheijen                    7      5       2  
Bastian Grupp                        9      7       2  
Konni Koch-F2                        4      2       2  
Fabian Casula                        6      4       2  
Paul SkingleyF2                      2      1       1  
GPLRACER6                           10     10       0  
Bart Vaes67F2                        5      9      -4  
Uli HofmannF2                        1      6      -5  
anders ostlundf2                     3      8      -5  


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
Paul SkingleyF2                     (35/36)      97.22
Pedro Berg_vd                       (34/36)      94.44
Konni Koch-F2                       (28/36)      77.78
Fabian Casula                       (25/35)      71.43
Yannick Verheijen                   (25/28)      89.29
Uli HofmannF2                       (15/15)     100.00
anders ostlundf2                      (1/1)     100.00
Bastian Grupp                         (1/3)      33.33
Bart Vaes67F2                         (1/1)     100.00


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Uli HofmannF2                     0.270          0.399    1m13.948s     15
Paul SkingleyF2                   0.293          0.461    1m13.893s     36
Konni Koch-F2                     0.545          0.993    1m14.185s     36
Pedro Berg_vd                     0.615          0.882    1m14.797s     36
Yannick Verheijen                 0.672          1.204    1m14.700s     28
Bastian Grupp                     0.963          0.963    1m27.221s      3
Fabian Casula                     2.841          3.792    1m16.510s     35


All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

Generated with GPL Replay Analyser
17.05.15, 21:45:13
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AndersOE

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geändert von: AndersOE - 18.05.15, 06:03:43

Zitat von Bastian Grupp:
Zitat von AndersOE:
Of course your penalty ain't listed by the admins when you haven't submitted a pb noor asked for permission to race.
Uli's penalty was listed and yours should have been that too if we had known that you would start in the race.

Actually you broke a rule when you joined the server without permission.

Anders


yes you can punish me again if you find this is the right way,
i'm quite sure i registered when i sumbmitted reko (which didn't work) and i couldnt ask because i noticed around 8.10 pm when chat was empty, only konni was shortly around. sometimes it seems you want to get me out of here, punish here, punish there, no matter who causes the crash or the problem.


We only give penaltys to drivers that brake any of the GPLRACER rules, there is no Witchhunt being done here.

If a driver has a penalty from a previous race we review that drivers race looking for incidents/bad driving. If there is an incident in the Startzone or if there is a Reko mail sent we look at the incident in question, and we always have second and third opinions before a ruling. Sometimes it goes as in the Zandvoort race, the one submitting the Reko mail is the one causing the incident, by squeezing another car that are on the inside in that case, and then that driver will be punished. No exceptions.

About the Reko mail not working.
It was posted by the Reko in the Zandvoort race tread at 17:57 on monday 4th of may, that the Reko mail was out of order an that a PM should be sent to the Reko account instead.

If you registered a pb then you should have been on the grid. And your name would have been in red as you had a penalty from the Zandvoort race.

As an experienced driver here on GPLRACER you should know our rules. Register a pb or ask for permission to race in the forum or in good time in the chat before the racestart.

Anders

Edit: I correct myself, I wrote a little bit to fast yesterday evening and remembered wrong. The incident Bastian submitted a Reko mail for was ruled as a Race incident with No further action. The squeezing was up for discussion during the Reko work.
17.05.15, 22:03:53
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Pedro

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Congrats Paul and Konni! Thanks for the tow freuen Happy and lucky to make it to the finish. Cu next time!
17.05.15, 22:06:38
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ulrich Hofmann

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geändert von: ulrich Hofmann - 17.05.15, 22:36:30

GRATS Paul, Konni, Pedro and Fabian
Shit happens but fore shure it was not your fault Paul.
I losed control, was a bit to close and on the wrong site, shame to me.
But until that, I had a lot of fun – THX to you Paul and Konni ...
Greetings from the hospital in Enna.
Hope to be convalesced until the next race zwinkern
uli
17.05.15, 22:34:07
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Bastian Grupp

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you probably did not realize yet that i came home just in time and realized myself around 8.10 pm that there was not registration, whatever the cause is. My only right behavior is not to start then ? You just have 8 people racing, its getting more strange here from day to day.
18.05.15, 09:49:02
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MLGathome

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Hi Bastian,

Really disappointing that you start flaming towards an admin before I even had the chance to download the last race and have a look at it.
It is getting stranger and stranger. It is not our fault you did not register a PB, nor is it our fault you did not show up in time.
The draft Reko report isn't written yet and you already accuse us of being prejudiced.
I will have a look at the replay tonight but am glad not all drivers react like this. Taking away the FUN to be an admin is very easy.

Greetings, Marcel

Übung macht den Meister, aber mir macht es nur Spaß. freuen
18.05.15, 12:09:34
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AndersOE

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Zitat von Bastian Grupp:
you probably did not realize yet that i came home just in time and realized myself around 8.10 pm that there was not registration, whatever the cause is. My only right behavior is not to start then ? You just have 8 people racing, its getting more strange here from day to day.


Nothing strange here at all.
We have rules for how to join a race in our league, as most racing leagues do. And we have a password that normally (with a working database/massmail) would be sent to the registered drivers on the race day, and is posted in our private chat before the race.
Thats to prevent unknown drivers joining our races and the risk that they destroy the races of our regular drivers.
Drivers have been thrown out of races for not having submitted a pb nor asking for permission. You were not.

As an admin you have things to do preparing the server for the race and can't always keep track on all drivers entering the forum.
Thats why it is the responsability of the drivers to assure that they have a registered pb or if they haven't registered one, ask the admins for permission to race.

Anders



18.05.15, 20:17:16
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konni koch

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All signs pointed to disaster, yesterday evening. When I - late - turned on my PC, I realized that the screen was without electricity. I plugged it to a different outlet, but now on the monitor there was only one low resolution available. Restarting helped nothing. verwirt

The desktop showed only few icons and I had to seek the programm folder to start GPL/Gem/Igor from there. It was 8:15 when I had to notice that I'll have to drive with a rather narrow viewing angle and no pribluda. geschockt

Fortunately I managed a time that brought me to the first half of the grid, so I was not involved in the crashs in the first laps.
Then it became more entertaining then I expected. It was fun to struggle with Paul and Uli, then against Fabian too. Sorry for your mishap, Uli!
Unfortunately I had my obligatory spin at about the half of the race. So Paul was gone and I expected to lose at least one position, but seconds before Fabian discovered that a right front wheel at a right-hander oval is unnecessary ballast and began to optimize his car design in that direction. zwinkern So the rest of the race was a lonesome one in the middle between Paul and Pedro. Grats to both! Respect to the 3-wheeler for finishing! freuen

When I startet my PC this evening, all worked fine as always before... verwirt freuen
18.05.15, 20:55:57
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Stefan Roess

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geändert von: Stefan Roess - 19.05.15, 02:06:24

Zitat von Bastian Grupp:
you probably did not realize yet that i came home just in time and realized myself around 8.10 pm that there was not registration, whatever the cause is. My only right behavior is not to start then ? You just have 8 people racing, its getting more strange here from day to day.


HOW ABOUT SENDING A CHAT PM IN IGOR TO ONE OF THE ADMINS 5-10 MINUTES BEFORE THE RACE, ASKING FOR PERMISSION? I AM SURE THE ADMIN WILL SEE THE POPPING UP PM WINDOW BEFORE THE RACE EVEN SO THE ADMIN MIGHT BE BUSSIY SETTING UP THE SERVER.

A SIMPLE AND NOT STRANGE SOLUTION. zwinkern


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19.05.15, 02:03:53
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bartvaes

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Between the verbal wars I'd like to post my race...

Qualy was good, first lap I'm slow as usual, 2nd lap "crash-boom-bang" and that was it mit Augen rollen

I can't really blame anyone for the accident happening. If I didn't end up upside down and could continue I probably wouldn't feel so gutted as I do now.
I tend to be a very cautious driver - certainly the first laps on cold tires - and watch the guy in front of me to see where he brakes and where I can try overtaking.
Right now I don't have the feeling everyone starts with the same idea, some just dive into the first opening they think there is.

But no real point in argueing; I just hope the last few races won't be a total waste of time and practice zwinkern
20.05.15, 11:24:18
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paul skingley

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Hi Bart. You have the right idea.
You cannot win races on the first lap but you can lose many.

It is a shame some people here worry more about who's fault it was, rather than trying harder not to let it happen in the first place.



Paul
20.05.15, 14:42:05
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Fabian

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I was quite content with the setup. My greatest weakness was probably lacking some grip and subsequently a slowish exit of the turns. Thus I expected to slowly but surely lose the draft and in fact there have been a number of incidents where I should have lost the draft but somehow I kept slowly catching up.
But eventually I was not precise enough at that dreadful Turn 3 (3? well, the one with the haystacks on the inside of the turn) and capped the RF tyre.....
..BUT..
... since we're on an oval: who need's the inside tyre? lachen
after some reconnaissance laps I managed to slot in a still goodly 1m15.25 and with one "drag-generator" (= tyre) less the Protos shot up to a remarkable 269km/h cool (consider that I started off with diminished speed out of the turns)

I would have been a sitting duck out front (erm... I'm back talking 4 tyres here btw.. zwinkern ) but I wonder if I could have pulled something surprising out of the hat there at the end.... zwinkern shame, but exciting race anyway. grats there! freuen
20.05.15, 22:18:14
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REKO

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The Reko report has been published.

http://forum.gplracer.eu/topic.php?id=2377&

The REKO
24.05.15, 20:01:26
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